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Okay, I've heard rumours that they're re-releasing the Real Buddy Holly Story on DVD sometime in October. Has anyone heard the same runour, and if so, where are they releasing it, and will it be available in normal stores like HMV and Music World? According to this rumour, the DVD has an area coding of one, so I think that means North America? Anyone want to back me up or straighten me out? If they are re-releasing it, yea! I always end up backtalking to the actors in the Buddy Holly story because they took sooooo many "theactrical liscences". I don't want to start rumours, I'm just trying to figure one out.


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No, I mean like the REAL Buddy Holly Story, the documentary that Paul Macarteny did, and the whole movie is interviews with Buddy's bandmates, family and friends. I've already got the Buddy Holly Story with Gary Busey, like you, from Wal-mart, but I think I bought it for $7.99 Smiler


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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So do you know if it's available now in stores like HMV or Music World, or if they are re-releasing it, or what's the deal?


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Can anybody else help?


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Can anybody else help?


I don't know those stores you mentioned. I searched for it on Bestbuy.com and found it in a matter of seconds.
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Release Date: 10/26/2004
 
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You can also check Ebay. That's where I got mine and I believe it is posted for sale quite often.


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I've seen it on E-bay myself too, but the reason that I'm asking this question is because I don't want to have to go through the internet to get it. As contredictory as it may sound, it would be easier for me to go out to HMV or Music World or even Wal-Mart to buy it. So I appreciate you checking on bestbuy.com, strong_luis, and the verification of the release date was much appreciated, but I guess the biggest question here now that I know that it IS being re-released for sure is that can I get it at a normal/music store?


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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The Real Buddy Holly Story was re-released on DVD yesterday!


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Gotta love when Christmas comes early. I recieved the Real Buddy Holly Story yesterday, and the movie, I think, was very well done. Now, in retrospect about the Buddy Holly Story with Gary Busey, that movie serves as a bit of a teaser to this biography, because, despite all its (thousands of) faults, Gary Busey brought recognition back to Buddy's name. And without all those faults, would Paul McCarteny feel the need to do a proper movie?
Probably the funniest thing that I found in the movie done by Paul McCarteny, there's a part where Jerry Allison talks about how he was trying to convince Buddy to go on another tour that the group had just been offered. Buddy told him, "Is it just about the money? Because if it is, I'll buy you a Cadillac." Jerry said it wasn't about the money, it was more that what if it happened that their records stopped selling and that the chance for tours stopped coming? To this, Buddy replied that it didn't matter. What happened if Jerry died tomorrow and he never had a chance to enjoy the money and fame that they had already gained. For those of you who have seen the movie with Gary Busey, you'll recall a seen where the group is sitting in a Cadillac in a showroom when Buddy and Jesse (the drummer) get in a tiff because Buddy is talking about all the tours and stuff that the group is going to do, but Jesse says, "Buddy, how much money do you need?" When he slams the car door and storms out, Ray Bob (bassist) asks Buddy if they can take a break after the Sullivan show. Funny how it's opposite, is it not?
About the Sullivan show, well, you have to see this to believe the following. I had read that Bill Griggs had reported that Buddy played only downstrokes, so that, when you watched him and Niki Sullivan play side by side, Buddy was playing twice as fast as Niki just to keep up wit Niki because while Niki was playing up and downstrokes, Buddy only plays down strokes. It's true. It's amazing to watch his hands though. It seems like one of his fingers makes the slightest movement and presto, brand new sound. I've tried to play his songs, and only four chords or not, my fingers are changing all over the place on the fret board. And there's this one part in Oh Boy, my god, his hands are basically a blur. Pretty cool. And you know what else I realized? They were nerds. Razzer. Buddy was "fine" (Sonny Curtis), he was a gentlemen, he was crazy, he was a great friend, but those four boys out of a Texas high school...well, it was obvious how young and inexprienced (in the way of performing, not playing) they were. And I think I love him more for it.
You realize how old technology was them, when they show home video clips and there is no sound. A little bit sad, because it would be amazing to hear what they're saying, especially when J.I. and Buddy are fooling around, and even to hear the response from the crowd when Buddy played. But the lack of technology goes to prove something else too. This is what Buddy did. Look at these examples of technology that he had to work with. And look at what he did.
And man, is that kid skinny. Him and Jerry Allison both, I don't see Joe B. in the same footage as them at this particular time. It kinda makes you wonder, you know, what did their mothers feed them on? Dried bread and water every other day? I mean, I know that those times were differet than now, kids didn't play video games all day, but I mean, that kid was skinny. Even from working with his dad, tiling and stuff, even hauling J.I.'s drums around, I mean, you'd think there'd be at least a hint of muscle on either of them. Not a hint. When people try to describe Buddy's physique by saying he was about half an inch shy of six feet and he was lanky, well, lanky doesn't begin to describe it. Jerry Allison was quite a bit shorter than Buddy, and by the looks of him ten years ago, has filled out, so it's not as bad describing him at sixteen, seventeen as lanky, but those two, man. I probably sound crazy describing this, but it's hard to describe.
Maybe it's no problem to the Texans and Americans from the South to listen to the interviews and Buddy talking and understnad what he's saying without thinking twice about it, but I found myself listening rather attentively not only because I was interested, but because I have to listen attentively to understand what they're saying. It wasn't actually as bad as I'm making it out to be, but there's this amazing part at the end of the movie when there's an empty theatre and you hear Buddy's voice, saying he can't see the music, it's all fuzzy. He keeps going on, something about a circle and concentration, but I kinda lose him, because his words slur and he speeds up his cadence. Wish there were subtitles. Razzer Then Vi Petty appears, starts playing Everyday, and then softly, steadily becoming louder, you hear Buddy singing Everyday. Paul McCarteny did all right.
Did you know Paul McCarteny plays the guitar mirror image, so that his left hand strums and right runs over the fret board? It's probably just a preference thing, some people just naturally play that way, but I also wonder if it has something to do that him and John Lennon would spend hours copyinh various artists on the telly, most notably Buddy. To copy them perfectly, you'd be playing mirror image to them.....Razzer

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they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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I ordered Paul McCartney's The Real Buddy Holly Story, as well, but it's going to be a few more days before the DVD arrives on my doorstep---that's okay, it can be my anniversary gift to myself. But I rather doubt that my wife will want to watch Buddy Holly for our anniversary... Again.

And, yeah, it's like we disussed earlier, the difference between Buddy's true biography and "The Buddy Holly Story" (with Gary Busey) is the difference between night and day. I don't want to rehash the discrepancies over and over, but it just astounds me to think that Columbia Pictures tried to sell "The Buddy Holly Story" as factual. I mean, hell, that movie couldn't be more bogus if they had thrown in a few robots and spaceships and kung fu scenes...

Regarding Buddy's (and the Crickets') physical appearance, I have to agree with you that those were some scrawny boys. But things were a lot different back then, in the 30s and 40s and 50s... Back then, people didn't eat every meal at fast food places. In the Texas panhandle in the 40s and 50s, grabbing a Coke and hamburger was a luxury, so kids just didn't over-eat as they do today.

For instance, my brothers and I were raised on a Texas ranch in the 50s, 60s, and 70s and we were all lanky but healthy kids---I was 5'9" by the time I was 16, but I didn't break 130 lbs until I was 33 years old. That's what a lean diet and lots of activity will do for you.

So, yeah, it doesn't surprise me that Buddy and other kids around Lubbock were so skeletal. In the photos of Buddy as a teen and young man, he looked like a strong gust of wind could carry him away. But later, in his early 20s, I think Buddy started bulking up somewhat, especially after he became a celebrity and married Maria Elena. Take a look at the candid photos from when Buddy started wearing sunglasses all the time---you can see that he's put on a few pounds.

But if you want to see The Crickets at their very ugliest, check out an original copy of their first Brunswick LP, "The Chirping Crickets".... Damn! They were frighteningly ugly. Buddy's and Jerry's teeth were heavily stained from that mineral-rich West Texas water. If that was the best picture of the lot, I don't want to see the photos they rejected.

Now, in reissues of that album, I know that somebody retouched the photo, brightening their teeth, etc. But the original album cover is a monstrosity. Truly, it made Joe Mauldin and Nikki Sullivan look like movie stars compared to Jerry and Buddy.

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The other thing about Buddy's performance that is interesting is that his right leg never stops moving, almost as if he's locking and unlocking his knee constantly, but only when he's playing. Once he strikes the last chord, the leg stops moving. Obviously he does it to keep time, but for those of you who don't know, it's not easy to keep time while playing. I usually lose time about half way through the song I'm playing. Interesting that he should know instinctively to keep time, and not just leave it up to J.I.


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Yeah, Buddy's bouncing leg was as much a trademark as his hiccup or his abrupt song endings. I've tried playing rhythm on a strapped acoustic while standing and bouncing one leg like that, and it takes a hell of a lot of practice. Based on his few performance videos, it looks to me as if his rapid right hand down-strokes are exactly twice as fast as his right leg bounce---this is pretty impressive, when you think about it.

It means that he was keeping two different times for his right leg and right arm, while his left hand was making chord changes on every second leg bounce. You can try this yourself... without strumming, you'll find it's pretty easy to time your left hand chord changes using the leg bounce.

When you've got that perfected, you're ready to start those fast right hand down-strokes, exactly twice as fast as the leg bounce. The real trick is maintaining control of those fast strokes on an electric guitar---it only looks like Buddy is furiously hammering the strings, but the electric guitar requires a delicate touch.

So, in a word, Buddy had CONTROL. With his left foot anchoring him, his body was positively vibrating with rhythm, yet his head would remain gyroscopically balanced before the microphone, easily tilting this way and that, as if it wasn't connected to his body at all. Almost like a bobble-head.

Gary Busey talked about this during production of "The Buddy Holly Story," about matching Buddy's movements. Busey never got the whole-body rhythm perfected, which is why he opted for dancing around the stage a lot and turning his back on the camera. Busey came close to matching Buddy's head movements around a microphone, but he still wasn't confident and graceful enough, in my opinion.

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For instance, my brothers and I were raised on a Texas ranch in the 50s, 60s, and 70s

So when you recieve the Real Buddy Holly Story, please listen to the end scene and "translate" ( Smiler) what he's saying. I'll keep trying, but it's because he's laughing and saying something (quite fast in addition) at the same time that it's so hard to understand him.

That's very interesting, that he would be keeping two different times. I guess it just fits in with what he was once was quoted as saying : "If people are going to like me, then they're just going to have to like me with my glasses on." Not only was he not going to change his appearance for anyone, he also wouldn't change the way he kept time, though others may have shown him easier ways. It's also quite hard to move your leg like that. I don't even want to think about what it would be like to strum, work the fret board, sing and move around a bit too.


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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So when you recieve the Real Buddy Holly Story, please listen to the end scene and "translate" ( Smiler) what he's saying. I'll keep trying, but it's because he's laughing and saying something (quite fast in addition) at the same time that it's so hard to understand him.



Thank God for digital audio/video technology. There's no way I could've pulled this out of my old VHS copy, but I was able to lock in on the sound clip using the new DVD. You're right, Buddy is talking in West Texan gibberish, but I happen to be fluent.

This is what I gather from the sound clip: Buddy and Norm & Vi Petty are at Nor Va Jak studios, it's late, and Buddy is exhausted, but they're trying take-after-take on some project. I'm guessing that Buddy is trying to dub (sing along with) himself, and his timing is a little off because he's so tired. At which point he says...

"Boy, I just can't get over it, Norm. Th'-uh-pla-page just blurs. Can't even see the words, lookin' right at 'em." [Vi Petty laughs] "Go and do it so many times, it's just... goin', you know, it's a circle, and a circle tightens up and catches up with itself, and another time comes before it's time to sing this one. That's what's gettin' me so bad, it's the concentration!" [Vi Petty says "Bedtime!" and Buddy laughs] "I don't mean to crap-out on your take, for sure. Let's go!"

That is about the best translation I can give you---try reading along with the words as you listen to that clip on the DVD, and I think you'll agree that I'm pretty damned close, if not exact.

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The fan mail is already pouring in: I've been told that the voice I identified as Vi Petty is actually Jerry Allison, and he's saying "Naptime!"

Also, this is an out-take from the recording of "Take Your Time"... Probably one of those takes included on the bootleg collection, What You Been A-Missin'.

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The "translation" you gave seems to be pretty close, I don't have time to watch the DVD right at the moment, but with a) a photographic memory and b) after watching the clip so many times trying to decipher what he says, I can hear the clip in my head and what you have posted makes pretty good sense. I understood the following parts after a couple of times watching without the translations:"Th'-uh-pla-page just blurs. Can't even see the words, lookin' right at 'em." [Vi Petty laughs]......it's a circle, and a circle tightens up ......That's what's gettin' me so bad, it's the concentration!" and then bits and parts of the last sentance, along with the let's go! Guess my West Texan still needs a bit of brushing up on Cool Smiler

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they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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crazy_for_buddy said something in the topic about the Buddy Holly story that prompts me to this comment: Not to spoil it for those of you who haven't seen the movie, but does anyone else find it freaky when there's a shot of the recording studio and you hear Buddy's voice, talking about the echo, and various riffs, and then he's telling Jerry how to play something, and then at the end of the movie, as discussed above, there's a shot of a theatre and Buddy's voice is heard again, saying "Boy, I just can't get over it, Norm. Th'-uh-pla-page just blurs. Can't even see the words, lookin' right at 'em." [Vi Petty laughs] "Go and do it so many times, it's just... goin', you know, it's a circle, and a circle tightens up and catches up with itself, and another time comes before it's time to sing this one. That's what's gettin' me so bad, it's the concentration!" [Vi Petty says "Bedtime!" and Buddy laughs] "I don't mean to crap-out on your take, for sure. Let's go!" I find those scenes both very striking and almost freaky in a way, no singers in the studio or theatre, yet Buddy's, spirit, I guess you would say, seems to be present because his voice is present. Or I guess you could say he never really faded away from the Norm Petty Studio, and thus it only seems fitting that his voice is still heard there. Of course I know that it's only a tape being played of Buddy's voice while the cameraman takes the shot, but nonetheless, the scene is very impacting.
By the way, does anyone know if the theatre seen in the last scene has any significant meaning in Buddy's life? Is it somewhere in Lubbock, or the Apollo theatre (probably not) or something?


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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I havent seen the film, so i cant help ya there. What did I say though that made you think of that?
 
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I think it was just talking about the significance of the silence at the end of the Buddy Holly Story or something, but instead of putting it there I moved it over into this topic cause it fit better. Smiler


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Now I'm really itching to see the Real Buddy Holly Story. I agree that that would be really creepy.One time when I was up alone watching The Buddy Holly Story my bathroom tap turned by itself.I think I'd have to watch The Real Buddy Holly Story in a well lit room in the daytime with other people.lol.I agree that the silence at the end is probably the most impacting part of the whole film.......it kinda puts thing into perspective I think.
 
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There's more! Apparently there is a home video of Buddy's last Christmas at his parent's house, as he sits on the couch and watches kids open presents. Why isn't this in the Real Buddy Holly Story, they used other home video footage? And I would assume that this Christmas footage would include Maria Elena......unless that's the exact reason why it's not in the movie? As Julie pointed out, though there is mention of Maria Elena, why isn't she interviewed too? They've got his bandmates, high school friends and family in there, yet no interview with his wife.


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Perhaps Maria Elena finds it too painful to speak of her late husband, afterall, at the opening of the Lubbock museum she apparently spoke through tears and had to stop several times to compose herself. She lost so much when Buddy died, its understandable why she wouldnt want to recall all of those painful memories. Granted, they all have had alot to deal with since Buddys death, but the relationship between a husband and wife and best friends ect...is completly different, and I think it would have been more painful for Maria than almost anyone.
 
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I see your point, and that yes, she did lose a lot. She had met the love of her life, married him, yet only knew him for six or less short months. And because they were husband and wife, I'm sure they grew very close and which is understandlably why she would have such a hard time talking about it, even this much time later.
However, I think the relantionship between best friends and husband and wife differ only in the way you know a person, not in the way that you know about a person. With Maria Elena, Buddy would have hugged and kissed her, with his best friends, Buddy would have jammed with them and teased them, this is the difference in the way they interacted with each other. There is no doubt in my mind that Buddy wouldn't have told the Crickets something when he didn't tell Maria Elena, nor turn around and tell Maria Elena something that he wouldn't later tell the Crickets. This is the difference in the way you know about someone.
I think I'm rambling, but my point is that with all respect, Maria Elena did not lose more or less than the Crickets did. They all lost Buddy, and no amount of any tribute will ever bring him back. Joe B. would have been 18 at the time, Jerry 19. They were, Maria Elena included (she would have been 26) all so young.


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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There's more! Apparently there is a home video of Buddy's last Christmas at his parent's house, as he sits on the couch and watches kids open presents. Why isn't this in the Real Buddy Holly Story, they used other home video footage?


I suspect there is plenty of home movies out there so satiate (spelling?) all of us fans. I also suspect that there are some things the family would want to keep just for themselves, Buddy private moments.

I also suspect that there is more tv footage out there (Bandstand) that could be released, fan footage, etc.

I could drive myself crazy wanting to see all this stuff. I want to know so much more and see so much more. Maybe someday, the family and others will release some more for us fans.

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I can respect the family wanting to keep some Buddy moments private, I do understand that as much as I would like to see all possible footage ever taken of Buddy. But it's understandable how the family feels about their moments with Buddy.
However correct me if I'm wrong, but American Bandstand was not private footage and ought to be released! What I wouldn't give to be born in that generation. Smiler


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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However correct me if I'm wrong, but American Bandstand was not private footage and ought to be released! What I wouldn't give to be born in that generation. Smiler


Yes, I think that really should be released. Unless it's true that it's missing. I find that hard to believe, though.

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Ok, while I realize that most of you lucky bastards(lol) on this board own already The Real Buddy Holly Story, heres a ray of hope for those who cant find it or keep losing it on ebay. On the website for the Buddy Holly Center in Lubbock, theres a phone number from which you can make a direct mail order for anything in their gift shop,and one of the items happens to be The Real Buddy Holly Story.Naturally I totally freaked and seized the oppertunity to beg my parents to make the call to Texas. I should be the proud owner of The Real Buddy Holly Story by next week, aswell as have some posters in my possesion and a t-shirt. You guys seriously need to check this site out, its every Holly fans dream, they have everything. Id be happy to post the site or the phone number for anyone interested, cause trust me, this stuff is worth the phone call!!
 
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It's such a good movie, especially after being disappointed by the Buddy Holly Story. The last scene at the end of the movie, now that's freaky. That and when the camera pans around the studio, yet you can hear Buddy talking. Let us know what you think.
Thanks Paul Macarteny, for setting the record straight. Smiler


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-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
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Originally posted by Charles Austin:


Also, this is an out-take from the recording of "Take Your Time"... Probably one of those takes included on the bootleg collection, What You Been A-Missin'.


Are you sure it's from Take Your Time? Listening to the track, it doesn't sound like Buddy's overdubbed and sung with himself, unless the "second time through" was just instrumental, the first time Buddy played rhythm guitar and this time was trying to play lead, but kept messing up because he was so tired.
I wonder why they chose to play Everyday at the end of the movie? Thinking about it now, it would have been freaky cool to have J.I. and Joe B. come on stage and start playing one of their songs, and then just like is done with Everyday, Buddy's voice and guitar would slowly fade into the song. I guess that would be pretty emotionally hard though, to be playing a song that your best friend recorded, and you can hear him, yet he's not there.


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Ok, I have finally seen The Real Buddy Holly Story, (about 10 times in the course of 5 days lol) and I couldnt be more satisfied, although there were some things about the film I wish there were more of, but first I'll do a bit of a victory rant lol. Before I got The Real Buddy Holly Story, all I owned of live footage was about 5 minutes split between Ed Sullivan appearences That'll Be The Day and Oh Boy, and I had never heard Buddys speaking voice. Now, although I was overjoyed to have some live footage, I was really dissapointed because it kind of proved what my dad had always been saying: Buddy Holly stood at the mic, played his guitar and sang, thats it. But, I made him watch The Real Buddy Holly Story and pretty much laughed in his face when theres that scene of Buddy onstage jumpin around and then gettin down on his knees and singing into Joe B.s bass mic...damn was that ever something to see, almost makes me madder that I'll never be able to se a live show, because he sure was one hell of a showman. Speaking of the performances, I was really wowed by Peggy Sue, not only by Buddy, but by J.I as well. His drumming was amazing, and a paradiddle looks alot harder than it sounds, thats for sure. I love that part when Buddys singing "pretty pretty pretty pretty Peggy Sue" and hes kind of wiggling, then the camera goes in and he kind of hunches his shoulders in and says "my Peggy Sue", I dont know what it is about it, but it kind of made me laugh because you can tell Buddys trying to be silly and trying to make his audience say wow, that guy can move lol. And then...after the adreniline of Peggy Sue, you get to hear him talk!! Holy crap, was that not what I expected, and Im actually glad it wasnt what I had always assumed he would sound like. I had expected him to sound just like Gary Busey, who to me, after hearing Buddys soft quite and really cute voice, sounds kind of like...well I dont know how to say this without insulting anyone but...like a really hick/hillbilly Texan (really sorry, cause I love Texan accents, Just not Buseys lol). Plus, I could actually understand Buddy, (although in the last scene you really have to listen, but I think thats just because he was talking so freakin fast), wheras J.I and even Joe B. a bit were harder to understand, you had to pay more attention, plus they had deeper voices than Buddy did, which doesnt help matters. Omg I cant stress enough how much I melted everytime Buddy talked! *little bit of a squeal* lol. Then, theres the pictures and home movies....I was so happy to see all those pictures of Buddy and Echo, early performances, and of course those super cute baby ones. My favourite home movie was probably the motercycles, because it shows what Buddy was really like...he wasnt all shy and serious, he knew how to have fun, how to act like an idiot, but get away with it because thats just who he was (huge lol on Sonny recalling Buddy in the movie theater, I would have laughed my ass off when he did that!) Omg, there were so many stories that made me love Buddy even more, because he sounds like he would have been sooo much fun to be around. One thing I wish they would have had a picture of though is Buddy with that pipe Don Everly was talking about...just picturing Buddy maticulusly holding this huge pipe is hilarious! And then the story J.I told of Buddy getting caught for speeding and tryin to sound all innocent about it and like he didnt deserve a ticket is kind of, while funny,shocking because the way The Buddy Holly Story protrays him makes it seem as if he wuld have been cussing and all pissed off, instead of gently trying to weasle his way out of it. I loved all the demo tapes and such that played during the film, but now Im kind of mad because you wouldnt be able to find them on a cd, and some of them are really good and I want them lol! Plus the Beatles and The Rolling Stones doing Buddys songs, (Both of which I think completly murdered them, although Paul Mcartney did a good job of Words Of Love). Ok, Ive probably missed out on like a hundred other excellent and notable parts of the film, but Im gonna go watch it again soon and then I'll probably remember. Now...the bad things....kind of hard to find any when you have so much candid footage and momentsof Buddys life laid out, but there some things that I wish were there, and some that I wish werent. First of all, where the hell is Maria Elena? I know its been discussed that it might have been too painful for her to speak of him , or, knowing her, mabey they werent going to pay her enough to do it, but leaving her out of the film is almost as bad as Norman Petty being left out of the Buddy Holly Story. Plus, she was close to Buddy in ways that no one else really was (no Im not thinking about "that" way lol), so there were probably a hundred more great stpries, pictures, or videosthat we missed it on because she wasnt there. Secondly, I was hoping that the infamous story of the robbery and Buddy pulling out his gun would be on there, because except forhere, I havent found that story anywhere, and it would be nice to get the straight story from those who were there. Wow, cant really ask much more from them for performance footage, or home movie footage, because all that was amazing..but we can always hope Dick Clark will one day stop being sucha dick lol and realease American Banstand, or perhaps the Holley family will release more home movies *crosses fingers* lol. Now, theres one scene, probably three if you separatre them, that I really wish werent included. The whole film up until this point, makes you feel good because you've had a couple laughs and gotten to see so much amazing footage......but then, and for me it started right when Paul Mcartney strted to play Words Of Love, reality hits you in the face, and you realize wow, this amazing person, this legend, is gone....and right on the close up of that gorgeous picture of Buddy I started to cry (ya I know, but Im a real sap that way, I cant never watch the ending of La Bamba or I'll be hysterical lol), and then they have that creepy scene (I agree with you buddy_blue) where Buddys talkin in like gibberish (I had to read Charles Austins translation to truly understand what he was saying lol), and I started to laugh a little bit, but it kind of makes it worse because its just like reality: Buddy voice is there, but hes not. Curios why they would end it with Everyday, thats probably the only thing better about the Buddy Holly Story, seeing as that ended with Not Fade Away, which can be seen as kind of symbolic bcause Buddys fans wont let him fade away...I dunno, I think they should have ended with a feel good song, like Rave On, which can also be symbolic, or something, beccause you walk away feeling happy and satisfied that you got to see all that, but with the painful reminder that your favourite artist of all time is dead.
 
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Sorta good news.....all the songs that you hear on the Real Buddy Holly story can be found in one way or another....one certain way would be called WinMX downloads. Razzer
Glad you enjoyed the movie, the motorcycle footage is cool. But what I wouldn't give to see not only J.I. with his shirt off, but Buddy with his shirt off! lol. I mean, just looking at the guy you know he's skinny, and is probably just skin and bones and lots of ribs, but still. lol.
By the time this movie was filmed, Norm Petty was in his grave, and I believe that Vi Petty would die shortly afer. Besides Maria Elena, another person I would have like to see in the movie would have been Niki Sullivan. I mean, the guy was with the band for a year, he helped them with some of the big hits and you miss him twice in a row!?!? Even Norm Petty was included this time, if only his voice.


they crowned Elvis as King, but Buddy was the rightful heir.
-"Only pity was him leaving this life so soon."-Travis Holley
"To talk about what influenced my drumming-Buddy's guitar playing influenced my drumming more than anything else. I haven't played with anyone since that I could play with as well, because I learned to play drums with what Buddy played." -Jerry Allison
"No ma'am, I don't have time."-Buddy Holly
 
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Yes, I knew you must be able to download those songs somewhere.only problem is, I dont know the name of any of them! lol. Omg when the motorcycle footage was just coming on, and you see J.I with no shirt, I was like begging to God please let Buddy take his off!! *very dissapointed* lol. Mind you though, that scene, in that white shirt and jeans, makes him look scrawnyer than I though he was, so there probably wouldnt have been very much to see (my mom thinks hes hot to, but said she if she wanted ribs shed go to a restaurant lol). So when exactly was the film made? I know it must have been in the 80s, after 1982, because thats when I think Norm Petty died. I was Vi Petty was in there, although I think she was full of crap in that scene where shes in the recording studio. She made it sound like Norman was the one that came up with everything, and Buddy only made slight suggestions, which Norman would only probably try....give me a break. Buddy did what he wanted in the studio, and no one was gonna tell him how things should be done. A prime example of what Norman did without Buddys guidence is how he destroyed the Apartment Tapes...need I say more? Buddy was the genius, not Norman Petty, period.
 
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